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This is a succinct version of my nightmares. THe name Jarrad Waite also springs to mind , athough not just at Carlton, North Melb. too!

Absolutely!

Yeah Patti, totally!

👏🏽 some memories relived there.

He reminded me of a colt; all legs and untapped talent when he was first recruited. He was a marvel to watch and he was Richmond , Richmond, Richmond. He spat the dummy because he cared so much about our club. An all time great and one of the very best players to ever play .

I remember his first game was there with cheer squad

After the euphoria of beating Essendon the week before even playing the following week was a bonus. My Geelong supporting sister and I caught a train then a bus to that dreary ground and right from the opening bounce Tiges were goners. I enjoyed sparring with the Cats fans and I did sing the Tigers song even after the big loss. We trudged back to the bus, my sister was happy , I was not. It is always great to beat that provincial team now and 2017 was particularly wonderful.

Sun was out when we arrived that day at Waverley and then the heavens opened. As you said Peter could and wet and miseracble, but hearing the supporters sing the theme song was a major highlight and enjoyable.

Oh dear. All clubs make mistakes. This was a bigun .
Acknowledged and we move on.

Thanx Kate. I certainly remember 1980's premiership and most of the players but our coach's name escaped me, until now. Wow! Go TJ.

Nowhere near as big of a celebration as 2017 or 2019 for that matter. They tried 😂

Richmond has had and has great players but KB is my all time hero. Nicknamed "Hungry," he certainly was. I watched the highlights of this premiership on then HSV7's footy replay but can't recall the goal: too young, I suppose. However, I do remember how 'slippery' KB could be around the opposition and kick magnificent goals. Dustin has the same ability.

Wow! Thanx for the history. I watched the Brownlow in 1974 and was so disappointed KB didn't win. Can't remember the 'scuffle' after the count. Never mind: Tigers won the premiership.

Tommy Hafey's lessons ring so true, particularly 1 and 4.

Peter, throughout the 1980s and 1990s lots of my older Tiger work colleagues hated Graeme Richmond for sacking Tommy Hafey. GR's name was mud. I'm not suprised Tommy was there at GR's end.

Excellent 🐯

Oh dear Michael Pickering. When you left Richmond so did my first nephew who bowed to his cousins' pressure and became a Cats supporter. You were his hero. Never mind. I do remember that terrible game in Geelong where Cats prevailed by close to 200 points but Tigers did exact revenge throughout the years, especially in the 2020 premiership.

Okay, KB on Tommy's right but is that Lionel Rose on his left?

That was a great read and some interesting stats to go with it!

Shin

Terry Wallace: I didn't like his idea of a 5 year plan for Richmond (corporate BS speak) and didn't like his strategy of playing keepings off/possession footy. I remember a few games where Matthew Knights played this style with his team mates, a few minutes before the final siren: not good. Yes, Tigers won but not in the way I would have liked.

Matthew, very well written. I agree with your term "thuggery." Thankfully, football rules have changed for the better. I cannot understand why Tasmania's State Government sponsors Hawthorn instead of their own state AFL team. Yes, it's all about money. I read a while ago that Tasmania lacks a 'decent sized' stadium. This is BS. BTW Danny Frawley should have realised that Elwood Beach is basically all reef.

Love Hoges

Thanx for this info. BTW I believe Dustin hates being called Dusty.

I totally understand Bomber Thompson's words.

Wow what a story. Awesome photos.

Still my favourite number 4 (sorry Dusty)

Love this Peter, I had this very conversation with my son last night, but we had us going to the draft with 2 top 10, 2 more later first rounders, and a couple of 2nd rounders under 30, for a total of 6 picks in the top 30.

And it’s so easy to achieve too!

I’m with you !

It’s my favourite Wuirky Royce Story

I understand Trent's comment and consider myself one of these supporters. I've never abandoned my team, but stuck with them since my earliest memories. For 30 years I've proudly worn yellow and black in Bali and tolerated the ex-pats' stirring, most are WC supporters. However, they kept their mouths shut 2017-2019 as Richmond was a powerhouse and I got my own back. My Tigers did this for me. 2020 - pandemic so no travel. However, I agree with the above post and cannot tolerate those supporters who make themselves known when our team is doing well. I believe it was ex-Captain Wayne Campbell who stated: "There's nothing worse than a fickle supporter."

Absolutely spot on!

Well said! We’ve changed playing style a few times over the past decade and still are bottom of free kicks against. At the very least the AFL needs to know we are watching and they and the umpires are accountable for such a long time discrepancy in our free kick count. How do we compare to other teams? Do they go up and down or do some teams have a long term very positive count? Its about impartial decision making and fairness

I don’t think it was that hard but the army are going nuts and I just want the club to be more proactive

I’m 💯% with you! I couldn’t watch it after half time. Every single match has been the same, for years.

Peter, you stated Tigers by 43 points tonight. I'll state Tigers by 42: the answer to the universe in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I hope Tigers put up a good fight, as I know they can. Whatever the outcome, as long as the continue to learn to play as a team, I'll be happy. GO TIGERS!!! EAT THEM ALIVE !!!

Spot on. I just want to see the cubs get better every week!

Dustin playing 'soft footy?' Mick McGuane has not suffered Dustin's terrible injuries, especially the kidney last year which had Dustin in hospital for weeks on end, so McGuane has no right to judge. Once again, media frenzy because Dustin is not playing at peak performance. Sadly, I don't think he will again, even though he tries hard.

I do hope Liam stays with Richmond and is not too home sick.

Thanx for this Peter. I've learned more about Dustin's younger years. Tigers were lucky indeed to recruit Dustin, who has remained a Tiger.

Spot on

Dustin will always be Dustin. I've not seen his eyes as I've never been close enough but his arm, warning opponents to steer clear, is what I remember most, especially when he's intent on a goal or a good passing kick. Dustin has experienced a few tough years. Peter Arthur's suggestion Dustin do a 'private' interview with Richo will make the Tiger supporters happy. It's entirely up to Dustin. Whatever he decides will simply have to be. Either way, Dustin will go down in Tiger history.

If confirmed it will be our 5th ACL this season - Gibcus, Clarke, Naismith and Young 😢

Sad indeed that Richmond might lose Shai and Liam.

Great reading
One of our very very best💛🖤💛🖤

I do like Neil Balme's comments. However, Dustin being available to media if Tigers win? Of course we'll win by 43 points. Dustin had better get his media boots on.

Agree. We could get a few good draft picks and relieve the salary cap to try to keep Baker

Totally agree. I have commented over past weeks. The same questions. Can play but simply not doing it and not looking interested. He isn’t what we need, we need our high paid players to be match winners or at least capable of impacting the game. Too many times when we have needed him in past weeks, he has missed goals, made poor decisions, given up a chase, simply not been there.
Take what is rumoured from Freo and let him go I think👍🐅

Surprise, surprise, AFL shafting Richmond again.
Seems to me there is a vendetta going on at Head Office against clubs that are successful in all aspects of their football development.
AFL want equalization, however manipulate the draw to ensure the clubs sitting in the 8 at the half way mark of the season have the best time slots, leaving the cellar dwellers to get the dregs of date & times ensuring their supporter base is left with no gate takings due to poor attendance etc.
The AFL hierarchy need to get their hands dirty & get amongst the fans to listen to constructive criticism & stop this job for the boys mentality.
NO FANS, NO FOOTBALL

It’s insane if it happens and will smash years of planning and will take us forever to recover

Congratulations to both

Lots of back massages for Dusty

Yes I kept thinking we are only 12 points behind then the
avalanche started

He won’t go

Once again, so much speculation. Whatever Dustin's decision; I hope it will be his own.

YES

Do most people think if Cumberland has more mind training he will be better.He is a good kick at goals but has too many brain fades

Future looks promising

Much better system

I thought we were playing Saints in Maddie's game. Am I off this planet?

Maybe he needed to be close to his dad for spiritual help on his future

In reality it is none of the fans business.Wait till the end of the year to find out.Why would he want to stay with a club where the fans are as bad as the press in wanting to know what he had for breakfast.The end of the year means the end of the year.Do I want to know—hell yeah

Kane Cornes is like a broken record his brain matter is diminishing with every kernel that drops of the cob.

So do we have a great chance of getting him in draught

Big chance

we would have to use our first pick on him. If we don’t, he will be gone.

Goodness Yes 2018 payback

That one hurt!

If the rumours are true I don’t mind we will have a stack of first round picks a with the players that say will have a good squad

Me too

So true and they wonder why he has stuck to hi high morals by not commenting back to them he is an outstanding person and I have it on my mind that Richmond will offer him teagles position

Not happy let them go Baker late first Balton 2 first an take over his contract Martin an Rioli 3first an Rioli contract also a2-3 round pick gives us 7first round picks

What a great tribute
Thank you

Wow and double wow! Dustin has invested well because he could. Good for Dustin. He certainly can take it easy now.

Peter, I'm with you wholeheartedly.

Too right!

Strike while the iron is hot, all players in question will require favourable clubs to pay top price plus more.. 1-2 years time is a long period in AFL in which while the cards stack against us in player quality and depth now they stack highly in out favour with youth and future trade quality players that are attractive to the top 5/6 sides for an instant injection. Youth bring culture also brings challenges however not often do chances come along where you can shape a complete side altogether at once.
It’s easier to push down hill than it is to push in sand.. youth although egar and driven will always follow the path of less resistance in order to get the desired outcome.
Trade value players now no matter the name or what may come… increase the value of youth and allow the processes in place prosper!! Clear salary and when time is right game changing players will come!

Personally, I can't wait to see Tom return next year, enjoying full fitness. Yes indeed, I'm sad about his season ending injuries during the past two years: so be it. Tom is more than a spearhead (lynchpin) forward, he's also a leader and mentor, as Peter has written.

The fact that talls and key positional players take longer to develop seems to never rain clear in people’s minds, freaks 1ce in a life time bigs do what Buddy did and hit the ground running a bit like Harley Reid.. Buddy done it over a period Reid has done it in 1 season, if 1 season makes your career then correct me if I’m wrong Buddy had 10 careers and Lynch has had 4…. Last 2 years injuries yes… 6 years ago his 26 years old… as a midfielder you say he has 3 good years left with the expectations.. As a forward they have only just grown into their playing weight x match fitness with forward craft working in their favour.
21 is where most start making their case for selections 23 is when they start to cement their position but here’s the catch, they don’t develop without the senior player there with them.. its not until 25-27 do they become the top dawg which will service you well for 7-10 years.
35-37 is not out of reach for any key positional player, this being said 26/27/28/29 Toms already played the key role with Jack playing the 2nd.. meaning Tom is well in front of most key forwards.. putting him into the elite status even missing 2 seasons when we will have a 32 year old 30 year old Tom Lynch that is as fresh as a daisy!
If we drafted/traded players due to injury we wouldn’t have a game to play..
At the very lease they only possible reason to realise Tom is to free up 1.3m, and with so profile players not continuing on in 25 I think our 15m salary will not even get close..
Tom stays until 36-37 kicks another 300

Great article! By far the best written piece I’ve read covering all aspects of “loyalty” from both sides of the bar! For me personally my loyalty lies in the members officials and staff that help drive this great club into the future, I will never discourage growth or moving forward by any involved, having read this article however gives me a broader outlook on presenting myself and not to judge a picture from whom painted it. Rather enjoy the picture for its beauty as it may not be there tomorrow!!!
Thank you RTSSG for a masterpiece

👌👌👌 I couldn’t have written this better myself, add in a few party tricks along the way get a couple pushed up the order and some 2 year handy on-field mentors along the way in trades that assist rival clubs land the catch their also chasing at a cost of next to nothing.

For so many good players to want out, the club needs to review why. It’s extremely rare for so many experienced players to request a trade at the same time. Hard questions need to be asked why is this happening. I think the club needs a full review on how we can go from one of the best in the competition to the worst in a couple of years. I understand we have been crippled by injuries and huge retirements but so have the other clubs that are still playing finals.

Hey Bill. Did you see the invite to fb rtssg gold?

Thanks Peter, I accepted
Cheers

Welcome!!

Hi bill, Pete always leaves it open for asking questions and offering thoughts whether to yourself or publicly, which coincidentally is the question RFC is also pondering.. vocal or in-house until becomes a requirement.
Why leave, why now, why senior players?? Answer is simple.. opportunity, financial, success, timing.
Can I get home? Yes
Financially better? Won’t be worse off with possible extension where I plan to settle after football and less travel seeing family and friends (kids foundation)
Success, 4 years time with older players coming to end, many already gone, no Dusty coming up as of yet.. seems further off than say Freo,GC,WC who’s fighting for finals or +3 years on our same scenario
Timing, In my prime worth chasing, worth trading if someone’s willing to pay required role, Richmond could do with opportunities brought forward on this and personal living arrangements and commitments become more important.
I have no doubt there has been open discussions between player&club since well before media seen anyone flying around or hearing about it,
Benny & Peg said 3 in 5, they built a list recruiting hard on required areas at costs that jeopardised the after, Taranto & Hopper deal put it 12-24 months back even more noticeable when struck by important injuries. Richmond has had rough times and some “headlines” over time but never in any history I’ve heard of, a place to bail from.
Which fits the article also… VFL could be effected which makes the situation more daunting but STRONG & BOLD! It’s definitely the right thing to do no matter the on-field results! Richmond will fight for you like Gibcus or they will help you to ensure your doing what’s best..
Liddzy broke my heart but club and Lidz knew what was right for both party’s.. Unfortunately that’s the cost of elite level sports and a franchise pushing for greatness!
They sit I support.

Taranto has been good when there, wouldn’t say great or the heights expected yet, drew 2 1st
Hopper, we underachieved unfortunately inconsistent games strung together by injury also has not helped the fact, also effectively 2 1st? I could be wrong.
Bolton, Rioli, Baker all consistent (Bolton not at the level he can although output is level) All premiership players, All played pivotal roles during the seasons, and not of them had the game Ora or influence then as they do now and for 3 years minimum each, 33-34 not out of reach…
To suggest the 2 contracted players are not/could not be as influential as hopper/taranto is ludicrous! Baker adds something special. He’s special honestly that hurt me more…
We want 2 1st + each of the contracted surely? Even if analysts say 1 maybe 2 each
Paired bolts/baker they say 3
I’d want 3 + consider requesting 3 + and a future 1st
However you look at it, T&H was an impulse reaction to allowing our list to age without contingency, shouldn’t have chased big name mids, simply wrong selection on where to fill with the $$,
Can’t allow our effectively list builders to not land BIG, chances are we have 1 crack at this, we miss then turn 5 years into 10..
Don’t entertain trading risk losing future talent with running deep, Top 40 show extremely good talent, even then wouldn’t be surprised if 74 hits a 200 gamer.
Ideally force the lesser F/S candidates to go at late 2nd early 3rd to reduce the effectiveness of this rookie list rule.
Either way strategy rests heavily on offers, if any and how deep we can push with total pick selections prior to starting draft.
Pick quantity inside top 30 will be an asset

Has SEN been reading my post? 🤔

If Bolton and Rioli go, be prepared for at least 3 grim winters, regardless of success at the draft, which is problematic. I doubt the finances of the Club can withstand that, given the reduction of supporters and sponsorship.

Keep him and scout around for his partner to get a dj gob in Melbourne

I meant job not gob

Royalty! A man that struck fear into even the hardest of criminals!

Perfect content for PA!

Nothing but admiration and respect for you Neil. 73 and 74 were marvellous. As were 17,v19 and 20. You're a Richmond man through and through. I was delighted when you returned. It was a dream come true. And what a year that was. Go well Neil.

It has been an honor & a privilege to see your contribution both as a player & an administrator. I believe without your guiding hand it wouldn't have happened - so THANKS Neil, enjoy your next phase of life. Tiger fans will love you forever!!!💛🖤

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Must have had a real good full forward to keep in out between 26 to 1/2 29 😉

Maybe it wouldn’t be bad for us if he wanted to go great person/player but he must have missed more games than he played through injury

This is the future of our club,we must stand firm. If a trade is not in our favour I hope Blair will back away.